The line of Herbert (Urban) Oliver, b.1844, son of Solomon Oliver, brother to Prudence and Albert

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RE: The line of Herbert (Urban) Oliver, b.1844, son of Solomon Oliver, brother to Prudence and Albert

Shane Bywaters · Guru

Looking into the children of David Deverson Douglass' marriage to Mary Scott.

Firstly, for their son Frederick Donald Douglass b.1914, I believe that he married but I'm not sure that he had any children.

From the marriage records ...

Name: Fredorick (Frederick) D Douglass
Registration Date: Apr 1937
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Jane Renner

From the 1939 Register ...

Name: Frederick D Douglass
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 14 Mar 1914
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 595 Honeypot Lane
Residence Place: Harrow, Middlesex, England
Occupation: Fitter Assemble
Line Number: 3
Schedule Number: 65
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: BIIC
Borough: Harrow
Registration district: 130-2
Inferred Spouse: Jane Douglass

The date of birth here matches up perfectly with the UK, World War I Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923 records found previously ...

Name: Frederick Donald Douglass
Birth Date: 14 Mar 1914
Relation to Soldier: Children
Title: WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description: Other Ranks Died Douglas A-Dowbiggin L

From the birth records ... (Frederick's wife)

Name: Jane Renner
Mother's Maiden Name: Smailes
Registration Year: 1913
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Morpeth
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Northumberland

From the death records ..

Name: Frederick Donald Douglass
Death Age: 86
Birth Date: 14 Mar 1914
Registration Date: Mar 2000
Registration District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Inferred County: Tyne and Wear

Name: Jane Douglass
Death Age: 75
Birth Date: 18 Aug 1913
Registration Date: Jun 1989
Registration District: Northumberland Central
Inferred County: Northumberland

Therein, it appears that Frederick and Jane relocated to Jane's native part of the world at some point after marriage.

Then, for their daughter Irene Sarah Douglass b.1917.

From the marriage records ...

Name: Irene S Douglass
Registration Date: Apr 1939
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Frederick Reeves

From the birth records ..

I believe Irene and Frederick had at least 4 children:-

Name: Frederick Reeves
Registration Date: Apr 1943
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Mother's Maiden Name: Douglas

Name: Douglas F Reeves
Registration Date: Apr 1944
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Mother's Maiden Name: Douglass

Name: Barbara E Reeves
Registration Date: Apr 1947
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Mother's Maiden Name: Douglass

Name: David J Reeves
Registration Date: Apr 1951
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Mother's Maiden Name: Douglas

Something I spotted that was particularly nice, was in the family line of Barbara.

From the marriage records ...

Name: Barbara E Reeves
Registration Date: Jul 1967
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Brent
Inferred County: Greater London
Spouse: Alan F Hutcheon

From the birth records ...

Name: Julia Ann Hutcheon
Registration Date: Jan 1969
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: St Pancras
Inferred County: Greater London
Mother's Maiden Name: Reeves

Name: David Deverson D Hutcheon
Registration Date: Jul 1971
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Mother's Maiden Name: Reeves

Name: Angela Marie Hutcheon
Registration Date: Oct 1973
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Mother's Maiden Name: Reeves

Did you spot it? Yes, the name of Christina Kathleen Olivers (b.1875) husband, David Deverson Douglass (b.1878), who was killed in action on 22 Sept 1917, has been passed through the generations to a great-grandson - I like that a lot.

Here the latest tree diagram:-

Shane Bywaters · Guru

Hot on the heels of Jane's recent talk about those from the Oliver family tree that have emigrated, I think I've located two more now, from this family line.

The Western Australian Museum has erected something called 'welcome walls' details of which can be found here:

http://museum.wa.gov.au/welcomewalls/

Its say.

'More than one third of Western Australia’s population was born overseas. The Welcome Walls projects pay tribute to those migrants who arrived by sea, landing at Fremantle or Albany, and to the many benefits they gave to their new home, enriching the lives of all Western Australians.

In Fremantle, over 400 panels commemorating the names of migrants who arrived through this area have been erected at the WA Maritime Museum at Victoria Quay.'

Within those name detailed on the wall I found Donald and Pauline, detailing their emigration in 1958, per the below:

http://museum.wa.gov.au/welcomewalls/names/salmon-pauline-brenda

SALMON, Pauline Brenda
Born 23 May 1936

Origin Finchley, London
First settled in Bassendean, WA
Original Occupation Sewing Machinist
Occupation in Australia Sewing Machinist

ARCADIA

Departure Port Tilbury, Essex
Arrival Year 1958

Fremantle
286
panel

Read their story
Married Frank Salmon 13.12.58 & had 5 children, Carol, Susan, Tracy, Steven & Michael.

http://museum.wa.gov.au/welcomewalls/names/salmon-donald-david

SALMON, Donald David
20 May 1933 – 8 July 1981

Accompanying Family None
Occupation in Australia Navy

STRATHAIRD

Departure Port London, UK
Arrival Year 1958

Fremantle
144
panel

Read their story
Arrived Fremantle 1958. Joined the Navy. Married Pauline Scarrott from London 19/12/1959 and had 3 sons. David 1962, Gary 1964 and Mark 1966

I also located an entry on the Find a Grave website for Donald David Salmon

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/213724512/donald-david-salmon

Donald David Salmon
BIRTH 1933
DEATH 8 Jul 1981 (aged 47–48)
BURIALKarrakatta Cemetery and Crematorium
Karrakatta, Nedlands City, Western Australia, Australia
PLOT Lawn-B-0249
Gravesite Details Age: 48 years, Last Residence: Karrinyu

And also an entry on the Find a Grave website for Pauline's husband Frank Charles Salmon

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/213551771/frank-charles-salmon

Frank Charles Salmon
BIRTH 1934
DEATH 5 Mar 1982 (aged 47–48)
BURIAL
Karrakatta Cemetery and Crematorium
Karrakatta, Nedlands City, Western Australia, Australia
PLOT Mc Section-Wall 5-0043
Gravesite Details Age: 48 years, Last Residence: Embleton

The Australian link then also led me to this helpful page, although looks not to have been updated since 2008:

https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/s/a/l/Janet-Salmon/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0008.html

So, per the updated pictorial view,

Shane Bywaters · Guru

Looking into the children of Christina Kathleen Oliver 1875-1902 and David Deverson Douglass 1878-1917.

Firstly, for their son David Deverson Douglass b.1901, I currently don't believe that he married, although he's currently proving elusive on the 1939 Register which might help confirm.

From the death records ...

Name: David Deverson Douglas
Death Age: 62
Birth Date: 23 Jul 1907
Registration Date: Jul 1969
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: St Albans
Inferred County: Hertfordshire

The date of birth here matches up perfectly with the UK, World War I Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923 records found previously ...

Name: David Deverson Douglass
Birth Date: 23 Jul 1901
Relation to Soldier: Child
Title: WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description: Other Ranks Died Douglas A-Dowbiggin L

For their daughter, Christina Kathleen Douglass b.1902 I have been able to find a marriage and childrens birth records.

From the marriage records ..

Name: Christina K Douglass
Registration Date: Apr 1927
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Percy L W Salmon

From the birth records ..

Name: Gerald L (Leonard) Salmon
Registration Date: Jul 1927
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Hendon
Inferred County: Greater London
Mother's Maiden Name: Douglas

Name: Pamela J (Joy) Salmon
Registration Date: Jan 1931
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Greater London
Mother's Maiden Name: Douglas

Name: Donald D (David) Salmon
Registration Date: Apr 1933
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Hendon
Inferred County: Greater London
Mother's Maiden Name: Douglas

Name: Cyril L (Leslie) Salmon
Registration Date: Jan 1935
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Hendon
Inferred County: Greater London
Mother's Maiden Name: Douglass

Name: Pauline B (Brenda) Salmon
Registration Date: Apr 1936
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Greater London
Mother's Maiden Name: Douglass

Name: Sheila K (Kathleen)Salmon
Registration Date: Jul 1937
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Watford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Mother's Maiden Name: Louglass

Name: Sheila K (Kathleen) Salmon
Death Age: 0
Birth Date: abt 1937
Registration Date: Jul 1937
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Watford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire

Name: Julia S (Sheila) Salmon
Registration Date: Oct 1938
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Edmonton
Inferred County: Essex
Mother's Maiden Name: Douglas

In addition, this record may also be linked to this family:

Name: Cynthia P (Phyllis) Dougluss
Registration Date: Apr 1922
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Mother's Maiden Name: Douglass

Pictorially, this how the tree now looks:

Shane Bywaters · Guru

When her husband David was Killed in Action on 22nd September 1917, it left Mary with two step-children, David, around 16 years of age, Christina, around 15 years of age, Frederick around 3 years of age and Irene, at just 5-6 months old.

Interested to know how life progressed for Mary, I searched for marriages in the Barnet area and was able to locate the following:

From the marriage records ...

Name: Mary Douglass
Registration Date: Oct 1926
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Frederick Copping

To then try and verify this as the correct Mary I searched the 1939 Register and found ..

Name: Mary Copping
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 16 Nov 1877
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 80
Residence Place: Finchley, Middlesex, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Works
Line Number: 20
Schedule Number: 123
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: BGCL
Borough: Finchley
Registration district: 131/3
Inferred Spouse: Frederick Copping

Although 1 year out, the day and month of birth matches perfectly with the UK, World War I Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923 records found previously ...

Name: Mary Douglass
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 16 Nov 1876
Residence Place: East Finchley N 2.
Relation to Soldier: Widow
Title: WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description: Other Ranks Died Douglas A-Dowbiggin L

Furthermore, living just next door is her first husbands father, David Deverson Douglass b.1856, captured as 'old aged pensioner, retired'.

Then, from the death records ..

Name: Mary Copping
Death Age: 93
Birth Date: 16 Nov 1875
Registration Date: Apr 1969
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Brent
Inferred County: Greater London

Again, a year out versus other records but month and day spot on, so looks likely to be the right Mary.

Shane Bywaters · Guru

From census and marriage records we can see that David Deverson Douglass, son-in-law of Herbert, was a long serving Postman by occupation and in his late 30's when he signed up for the war effort he joined the London Regiment (Post Office Rifles), 8th Bn.

From the UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919, records ...

Name: David Devison Douglas
Birth Place: St. Pancras
Residence: East Finchley
Death Date: 22 Sep 1917
Death Place: France and Flanders
Enlistment Place: Mill Hill
Rank: Rifleman
Regiment: London Regiment
Battalion: 8th (City of London) Battalion (Post Office Rifles)
Regimental Number: 375547
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

From the Find a Grave website ..

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/12321462/david-deverson-douglass

Name: Rifleman David Deverson Douglass
Death Date: 22 Sep 1917
Cemetery: Brandhoek New Military Cemetery No 3
Burial or Cremation Place: Ypres (Ieper), Arrondissement Ieper, West Flanders (West-Vlaanderen), Belgium

Service No: 375547
Age: 40
Regiment/Service: London Regiment (Post Office Rifles), 8th Bn.
Husband of Mary Douglass, of 80, Hamilton Rd., East Finchley, London

A picture of the war grave can also be seen here:-

https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2005/341/12321462_113410145878.jpg

There are several interesting and informative internet sources with details and pictures about the 'The Post Office Rifles', including the below link with an extract from the website

https://www.postalmuseum.org/collections/post-office-rifles/

'To accommodate the swell of recruits in the First World War, a second Post Office Rifles Battalion was formed in September 1914. They were titled the 2nd/8th Battalion

The 2nd Battalion initially served as a reserve regiment, supplying reinforcements for the 1st Battalion but in January 1917 the battalion also moved to the front line in France. They first saw action in the Second Battle of Bullecourt in May 1917.

The Post Office Rifles fought at the Somme and at Passchendaele (Third Ypres) and suffered tremendous losses. More than half of their fighting force was lost at the Battle of Wurst Farm Ridge in September 1917.'

Shane Bywaters · Guru

Looking into the line of Christina Kathleen Oliver...

From the marriage records ...

Name: Christina Kathleen Oliver
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 483
Records on Page:
Name
David Deverson Douglass
Christina Kathleen Oliver

From the birth records ..

Name: David Deverson Douglass
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex

Name: David Deverson Douglas
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 23 Aug 1901
Baptism Place: Saint Paul, Finchley, Barnet, England
Father: David Deverson Douglas
Mother: Christina Kathleen Douglas

Name: Christina Kathleen Douglass
Registration Year: 1902
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex

Name: Christina Kathleen Douglas
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 26 Oct 1902
Baptism Place: Saint Paul, Finchley, Barnet, England
Father: David Daverson Douglas
Mother: Christina Kathleen Douglas

Then it was sad to just discover at what looks to be around the same dates at the birth of their second child, a death record for Christina

From the death records ..

Name: Christina Kathleen Douglass
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Registration Year: 1902
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 27
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex

I was then able to locate David marrying again

From the marriage records ...

Name: David Deverson Douglass (Widower)
Marriage Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1878
Marriage Date: 4 Apr 1904
Marriage Place: Saint Paul, Finchley, Barnet, England
Spouse: Mary Scott (Spinster)

Then unfortunately there appears to be further sadness with 3 children in 3 years being born and passing away

From the birth/death records ..

Name: Mary Douglass
Registration Year: 1905
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex

Name: Mary Douglass
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 1
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex

Name: George Douglass
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex

Name: George Douglass
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 0
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex

Name: John Harold Douglass
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex

Name: John Harold Douglass
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 0
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex

A little later I do find two further births ...

From the birth records ...

Name: Frederick D Douglass
Mother's Maiden Name: Scott
Registration Year: 1914
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex

Name: Irene S(arah) Dougluss (incorrect transcription of Douglass)
Registration Date: Apr 1917
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Greater London
Mother's Maiden Name: Scott

Finally for this specific post, as if there wasn't already enough tragedy in the above, David Deverson Douglass Snr appears to have been a casualty of WW1. His youngest daughter Irene just 5-6 months old when he was Killed in Action 22 Sep 1917.

Name: David Deverson Douglass
Gender: Male
Rank: Rfn
Record Type: Card
Death Date: 22 Sep 1917
Service Number: 375547
Corps, Regiment or Unit: 2/8th. London
Title: WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description: Other Ranks Died Douglas A-Dowbiggin L
Reference Number: 11/W./1821, 11/APW/16891
Next of Kin:
Name Relation to Soldier
David Deverson Douglass
Mary Douglass Widow
David Deverson Douglass Child
Christina Kathleen Douglass Children
Frederick Donald Douglass Children
Irene Sarah Douglass Children

Shane Bywaters · Guru

Looking at Ellen Selina I was able to find a marriage record and an entry in the 1939 register, I don't believe Ellen had any children:

From the marriage records ...

Name: Ellen Selina Oliver
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 29
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1870
Marriage Date: 9 Apr 1899
Marriage Place: St Martin, Kentish Town, Camden, England
Father: Herbert Oliver
Spouse: Read Everitt
Register Type: Parish Register

1939 Register

Name: Ellen Everitt
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 29 Dec 1870
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 233
Residence Place: Finchley, Middlesex, England
Occupation: Daily Domestic Worker
Enumeration District: BGBM
Borough: Finchley

Household Members Age
Reed Everitt 74
Ellen Everitt 69

For Emily Rhoda I don't currently believe that she married, and the only other record I can find at present in a possible entry in the 1949 Electoral Registers in the right geographical area.

Name: Emily Rhoda Oliver
Electoral Date: 1949
Street Address: 4 Bgbf
Ward or Division/Constituency: Finchley West
County or Borough: Finchley, England

Update tree diagram below:-

Shane Bywaters · Guru

We're lucky enough to have a lovely picture of Winifred Smith nee Oliver and her husband Henry in the gallery, shared by their Grand-daughter Betty.

Here are details for the marriage and children of Winifred and Henry:-

From the banns/marriage records ...

Name: Winifred Oliver
Gender: Female
Record Type: Banns (Bann)
Marriage Banns Date: 12 Apr 1891
Marriage Banns Place: Holy Trinity, Stroud Green, Haringey, England
Spouse: Henry Smith
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Winifred Oliver
Registration Year: 1891
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex
Records on Page: Name
Winifred Oliver
Henry Smith

From the birth/baptism records ...

Name: Henry Oliver Smith
Registration Year: 1892
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex

Name: Henry Oliver Smith
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 Apr 1892
Baptism Place: Holy Trinity, Finchley, Barnet, England
Father: Harry Smith
Mother: Winifred Smith
Register Type: Parish Registers

Name: William Frank Smith
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 1 Apr 1894
Baptism Place: Holy Trinity, Finchley, Barnet, England
Father: Henry Smith
Mother: Winifred Smith
Register Type: Parish Registers

Name: Sidney Edward Smith
Registration Year: 1896
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex

Name: Sydney Edward Smith
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 8 Mar 1896
Baptism Place: Saint Paul, Finchley, Barnet, England
Father: Henry Smith
Mother: Winifred Smith

Name: Winifred Emily J(ane) Smith
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex

Name: Douglas Arthur Smith
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex

Name: Douglas Arthur Smith
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 23 Sep 1900
Baptism Place: Finchley St Mary, Barnet, England
Father: Henry Smith
Mother: Winifred Smith
Register Type: Parish Registers

Name: Rhoda Christina Smith
Registration Year: 1904
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Rochford
Inferred County: Essex

Pictorially, the tree now expands per the below:-

Shane Bywaters · Guru

Our research to date had helped us learn a lot about the life of Solomon Oliver and his family including the lines down through his daughter Prudence and son Albert, per these links:

Solomon Oliver b.1802 d.1860

http://www.oliverfamilyhistory.co.uk/v4/stories/solomon-and-joshua-bermuda-transportation.htm

Prudence Oliver b.1834 d.1898

https://oliverfamilyhistory.activeboard.com/t59809142/prudence-oliver-ellis-griffin-protestant-house-and-more-and-/
http://www.oliverfamilyhistory.co.uk/v4/stories/albert-oliver-stonesfield-family-photograph.htm

Albert Oliver b.1843 d.1917

https://oliverfamilyhistory.activeboard.com/t66483543/annie-maria-oliver-wife-of-albert-woodward-daughter-of-alber/
https://oliverfamilyhistory.activeboard.com/t43026728/the-sad-story-of-hetty-may-bayliss-then-the-bayliss-family-t/
https://oliverfamilyhistory.activeboard.com/t61999283/the-line-of-beatrice-agatha-bartlett-nee-oliver/
https://oliverfamilyhistory.activeboard.com/t41771935/legible-oliver-gravestones-for-four-consecutive-generations-/

Solomon and his wife Maria actually had 6 six children, Prudence and Albert as above, Thomas, Spencer and Maria who sadly died young, and also Herbert (baptised as Urban).

This is a new thread to capture research and findings on the family and descendants of Herbert.

Some initial findings below:-

From the marriage records ...

Name: Herbert Oliver
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Birth Year: abt 1845
Marriage or Bann Date: 10 Jul 1865
Marriage Place: Oxford, St Clement, Oxfordshire, England
Parish as it Appears: St Clement
Spouse: Jane Martha Tyson
Father: Solomon Oliver

From the birth/baptism records ...

Name: Winifred Oliver
Registration Year: 1866
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Islington
Inferred County: London

Name: Ellen Harriet S Oliver
Registration Year: 1870
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Islington
Inferred County: London

Name: Ellen Harriet Selina Oliver
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 24 Apr 1870 (Image also notes birth date of 29 Dec 1869)
Baptism Place: Upper Holloway St Paul, Islington, England
Father: Herbert Oliver
Mother: Jane Martha Oliver
Register Type: Parish Registers

Name: Emily Rhoda Oliver
Registration Year: 1874
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Headington
Inferred County: Oxfordshire

Name: Emily Rhoda Oliver
Baptism Date: 7 Jan 1874
Baptism Place: Cowley, St Mary and St John, Oxfordshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Cowley S John
Father: Herbert Oliver
Mother: Jane Oliver

Name: Christine Oliver (later Christina Kathleen Oliver)
Baptism Date: 5 Mar 1876
Baptism Place: Cowley, St Mary and St John, Oxfordshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Cowley St John
Search Photos: Search for 'Cowley, St Mary and St John' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: Herbert Oliver
Mother: Jane Oliver

1881 Census ...

Jane appears to be in the Hospital, Tottenham, Middlesex

From the Death records ...

Sadly it looks although Jane passed away just a few months later

Name: Jane Oliver
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Registration Year: 1881
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 34
Registration District: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex

At the time of the 1881 census, at the same time as Jane is in hospital, Herbert is lodging in his native Oxfordshire ..

.. but as yet I've not been able to trace him any further.

There is the following death record, but this Herbert appears to match well with another family (Spouse: Emily Oliver (nee Tedham) Children: Herbert Oliver, Percy Oliver, Jesse Oliver, Albert Oliver, Emily S Oliver, Kate Oliver), so this doesn't look to be 'our' Herbert.

Name: Herbert Oliver
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 51
Registration District: Hastings
Inferred County: Sussex

So pictorially this branch of the tree starts to look like this:-