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Hi, I stumbled across your page while looking for some personal records.

I know there was a Celest Eytel living in Seattle in the early 80's and we were related somehow but It's been forty years since I spoke with her.

My name is Roy William Eytel.  I am the son of Norman Roy Eytel and the grandson of Lily Salina Bayliss and Charles Clay Eytel.  We are from Bremerton Washington.

Grampa Clay died before I was born but there is something missing from all of his records.  His second middle name was Norman.  His name was Charles Clay Norman Eytel.  That's where my dad got his name and my uncle got his.  They were Raymond Clay Eytel and Norman Roy Eytel.

Somewhere along the line the males started going by our middle names.  I don't know when that started but my father didn't go by Norman, he went by Roy.  I go by Bill not Roy and my son goes by Tim, not William.  It's kind of a neat way to trace our family tree a little bit.

My dad married Enid Irene Mueller and they had four kids.  Judith Dianne, Joyce Lorraine, Susan Irene and me, Roy William.

Judy passed away in 1960 at age 17 from Rheumatic fever.  I never got to meet her.

Joyce is married to Jesus Ronaldo Mora and they have three children.  Diane Irene from her first marriage to Alan Baine and Denita Lorraine and Douglas Dean from her marriage to Ron.

Susan married her high school sweetheart David Glenn Ecklund and had one child with him.  (Child?  He's forty...) David James Ecklund.

I married Joley Marie Messina and we have three kids.  William Timothy Eytel (17), Giada Marie Elizabeth Eytel (15) and Jocelyn Suzanne Eytel (13).

My nephew David has one daughter named Kylie.  I don't know much more about her.

My niece Diane has one son, Joseph who is married but I've never known his wife.

My niece Deni has two girls.  Ariana, and I am embarrassed to admit that I've never me the littlest one.  I don't know her name since we've lost contact with Deni.

I know there are other Eytels out there, some of them are related and some (the ones from Argentina) are most likely not.

I know that there is another William Eytel out there somewhere because there is a public record of me having lived in Poulsbo Washington.  I've never lived in Poulsbo.

Hope that helps and if there is anything else about the family that you are curious about please let me know.

Sincerely,

Bill Eytel



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https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/190999782/ada-l-bayliss

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https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/190999806/joseph-bayliss

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It would certainly appear that Kathleen's branch of the family endured an incredibly tough end to 2012 as we find both of Kathleen's son-in-laws passing during this period, preceding Kathleen herself.

James Neal Rimmer - Obituary

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James Neal Rimmer, age 80, of 1606 Laura Duncan Rd. Apex, NC died Saturday November 10, 2012 at the Durham VA Hospital. He was born February 18, 1932 in Danville VA. to the late James Henry Rimmer and the late Katreen Hermoine Hudgins Rimmer. James was first married to the late Annette Marie Lamoureux Rimmer then later married Hetty Evelyn Bayliss Rimmer. James served his country in the US Airforce. He spent most of his life working for lumber mill's in Canada and the US. He loved to do carpenter work, he could build almost anything next to working with wood, James loved to fish. He was a member of the Seventh Day Adventist Church. In addition to his wife Hetty he is survived by one son: Keith James Rimmer and wife Lynn of Vancover, Canada: three daughters: Sharon Anne Williams and husband Ron of Holly Springs, NC, Colleen Candance Wilkerson and husband Wayne of Richmond, VA, Sharon Lynn Shomette and husband Lou of Columbia, MD: Three brothers; Robert Samuel Rimmer and wife Loretta of Danville, VA, Charles Marshall Rimmer and wife Dorathy od Idaho Falls, ID and Henry Keith Rimmer and wife Bong Suk of Seoul, South Korea: one sister-in-law; Bonnie Rimmer of Greensboro, NC: nine grandchildren: three great-grandchildren: many aunts and uncles, numerous nieces and nephews. In addition to his parents and first wife James is predeceased by one brother; Ronald Wayne Rimmer: one granddaughter; Shannon McCrea. A Memorial services was held 2:00 p.m. Friday November 16, 2012 at the Raleigh Seventh Day Adventist Church

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/godanriver/obituary.aspx?pid=161215557#fbLoggedOut

 

Robert Martin Moores - Obituary

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MOORES, Robert Martin faithfully served the Seventh-day Adventist Church as Branson Hospital accounting clerk, East African Union Secretary-Treasurer, South China Island Union Mission Treasurer, Auditor for West and East Indonesia Unions, Far Eastern Division Auditor, Maritime Conference Secretary-Treasurer, Trans-European Division Associate Treasurer and Northern Asia-Pacific Division Treasurer for a total of 28 years overseas and seven years in Canada. Martin earned his Chartered Accountant degree from the Institute of Chartered Accountants of British Columbia in 1971. He accumulated over one million air miles, and travelled in over 50 countries for work and vacation.
Martin was always an avid train fan and found great enjoyment riding trains in numerous countries around the world. Martin was ordained to the Gospel Ministry at the 1993 Maritime Conference Campmeeting. He was joyfully devoted to his family, to the Lord and to the church. Martin read his Bible through every year for 46 years, and always ended his letters with ―Yours in the Blessed Hope.‖ Born in Oshawa, Ontario on August 4, 1944, Martin grew up in Oshawa and greatly enjoyed his summers at Camp Frenda. He attended Kingsway College, Canadian Union College and Columbia Union College (Washington Adventist University). In 1970, Martin began his overseas service in Kenya. Over the years, the family lived in Kenya, Taiwan, Indonesia, Singapore, Canada, England, and South Korea. Forced to retire due to failing health in 2005, he and Eileen moved to Tantallon, Nova Scotia, where Martin kept active as treasurer of the Tantallon church, and assisted in treasury for the Barnesville and New Glasgow churches, and for several years edited the monthly Tantallon Church newsletter, Keeping in Touch. Martin passed away in the Infirmary (hospital) in Halifax, Nova Scotia, early on Friday morning, December 14, 2012, with congestive heart failure, and is now resting awaiting the call of the Lifegiver. Martin was predeceased by his infant son, Robert Craig; his father, Frederick Moores; his stepfather, Louis Moores; his mother, Dorothy (Elliott) Moores, and his nephew, Peter Mueller. He sadly leaves to mourn his passing his loving wife of 46 years, Eileen (nee Bayliss); his three daughters, Heather (Ken) Harrington, Holly (Ben) Bruestle, and Merrilee (Dean) Moores; his three grandchildren; his brother, Clarence Edward (Joan) Moores; his sister, Glenda (Keith) Madgwick, and his nieces, uncles, aunts and cousins.

http://www.maritimesda.ca/library/docs/pulse_mar2013.pdf



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Hi All,

During the journey of discovery into the family that descend from Joseph and Ada, we have come to learn a little about Kathleen May Bayliss (nee Tinkler), wife of Hubert George Oliver Bayliss.

We have been fortunate enough to also locate one or two lovely pictures.

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We also heard from 'heysharon' who wrote glowingly about her grandmother 'Can you tell from her face what a beautiful, loving and kind person she is? I love my Grandma'

So its with sadness that this afternoon I discovered the Obituary of Kathleen, who passed last December, aged 100.

Obituary

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BAYLISS, Kathleen May (Tinker) was born in Pike Lake, Saskatchewan on July 21, 1912, the second child of Arthur and Annie Tinkler, who had immigrated to Canada from Ireland in 1907. Kathleen‘s siblings were her older brother, Desmond, and her younger sister, Evelyn. Kathleen attended Battleford Academy in 1926 and became the first Seventh-day Adventist in her family.
She loved prairie life on the farm until her family moved to BC in 1935. On January 7, 1942 Kathleen married Hubert Bayliss in the Victoria, BC church. Two daughters, Hetty and Eileen, were born to them at Rest Haven Hospital, in Sidney, outside of Victoria. Kathleen faith-fully upheld her colporteur husband from 1948 to 1962, and all through their 47 years of marriage. Her beautiful contralto voice inspired listeners at churches and camp-meetings. Kathleen and Hubert were charter members of the Orchard City Church, and during that time they operated a successful health food store in Kelowna, BC. They loved giving out Signs magazines, and having Bible studies. For years Kathleen memorized the Sabbath school memory verses and could repeat it each Sabbath. Kathleen and Hubert volunteered at the Voice of Prophecy office in Nairobi, Kenya in 1975 and 1976, and were world travellers. Kathleen loved God‘s creation, had extensive knowledge about birds and plants, and loved everyone. She passed away in the Melville Lodge nursing home in Halifax on December 26, 2012. Kathleen was predeceased by her infant grandson, Robert Craig Moores, in 1969, her loving husband, Hubert, in 1989, and her two sons- in-law, Jim Rimmer on November 10, 2012, and Robert Martin Moores on December 14, 2012. She is survived by her two daughters, Hetty Rimmer and Eileen Moores, five granddaugh-ters, Colleen Wilkerson, Sharon Shomette, Heather Harrington, Holly Bruestle, and Merrilee Moores, eight great-grandchildren, Christopher, Grant, Philip, Jack, Kyleigh, Claudia, Camille, Marina, and one great great-grandchild, Ryan.
The following Bible text seems particularly appropriate for Kathleen: Psalms 116:15 Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of His saints. Now Kathleen is sleeping in Jesus, awaiting the call of the Lifegiver.

http://www.maritimesda.ca/library/docs/pulse_mar2013.pdf



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I thought I would consolidate the names that have been gathered on this branch into an updated tree diagram - there are now 6th and 7th generation descendants down from William and Charlotte Bayliss and Albert and Hannah Oliver, so I think these pictures of them are quite something, capturing real faces from the pre-Canadian ancestry.

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I thought I would consolidate the names that have been gathered on this branch into an updated tree diagram - there are now 6th and 7th generation descendants down from William and Charlotte Bayliss and Albert and Hannah Oliver, so I think these pictures of them are quite something, capturing real faces from the pre-Canadian ancestry.

William Bayliss b.1824 d.1896
Charlotte Boots b.1832 d.1920

Albert Oliver b.1841 d.1917
Hannah Hanwell b.1841 d.1913

Joseph Bayliss b.1867 d.1940
Ada Louisa Oliver b.1867 d.1956

Lily Selina Bayliss b.1891 d.1991
Charles Clay Eytel b.1887 d.1954
Raymond Clay Eytel b.1912 d.2004
Norman Roy Eytel b.1915 d.1997

Beulah Beatrice Bayliss b.1892 d.1936
Hugh Price Varker b.1891 d.1963
Harold William Varker b.1917 d.1988
Joe Hugh Varker b.1921 d.1980
Keith Bayliss Varker b.1922 d.1942

Hetty May Bayliss b.1894 d.1904
Mary Elizabeth Birch b.1901 d.1979
Joyce Hetty Bayliss b.1924 d.xxxx
Phyllis Marie Bayliss b.1926 d.xxxx
Patricia Joan Bayliss b.1928 d.xxxx
David William Joseph Bayliss b.1930 d.xxxx

William Albert Bayliss b.1899 d.1988
Kathleen May Tinkler b.1912 d.2012
Hetty Evelyn Bayliss b.1943 Living
Eileen May Bayliss b.1944 Living



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I have recently located a couple of other items of interest on the branch of Lily Selina Eytel (nee Bayliss), daughter of Ada Louisa Bayliss (nee Oliver).

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Here is the obituary and a picture of Enid Irene Eytel (nee Mueller):

http://www.tributes.com/show/Enid-Irene-Eytel-86135027

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And here is the gravestone of Elva Stella Eytel (nee Halstead):

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=94858915

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Hi Maria,

That is fascinating and really quite moving to read that the nature of Hetty's tragic young death clearly remained with her brother William/Bill throughout his life. I'm pleased that you've been able to read and learn of the actual facts, it was a truly terrible accident for all involved.

Its also very poignant that the old family picture we have on the website includes Hetty, I've not seen any others but perhaps this is the only picture of Hetty that exists.

Thanks for now,
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Hetty's story lived on in the family, with her brother, Bill Bayliss, passing the warning about the dangers of throwing rocks on to his children and his grandchildren.  The story did get a bit garbled over the years and I heard it as an account of a boy throwing rocks over a hedge and a rock accidentally hitting Hetty and killing her in her own backyard.  It was nice to see the actual account of what happened as reported in the newspaper.  Thank you.



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I'm reading a book by Richard Paul Evans called "Miles to Go" right now. In it he mentions Kellogg, Idaho. and the Bunker Hill Mining Company. Had I not read this thread and followed the story of the Bayliss family, it wouldn't have meant anything to me, but I must admit that when he mentioned this town he really grabbed my attention. The book is only fiction, but I thought it was interesting that twice in a matter of months the name of this town has come to my attention. Funny how these coincidences occur!

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Maybe she's the Maude Varker whose dates are given as 1889-1973 in the Social Security Death Index (died in Washington State).

Curiously, a Maude E Clemson is buried at Greenwood Cemetery, Kellogg (the same cemetery where Hugh & Beulah Varker are buried).  She shares a plot with John Clemson (1881-1933).  Her dates are given as 1893-1967 which wouldn't fit exactly with the SSDI. However, I can't see Maude Clemson on the SSDI, which makes me wonder if this is really Maude Varker.



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Hi Shane

On Hugh Price Varker's WWII draft registration card it shows a Maude Varker at the same address in Kellogg.  I think she must be his second wife:

Spokane Daily Chronicle, Monday 8 Feb 1943 (via Google News)

'Kellogg Couple married Friday'
'Kellogg, Idaho, Feb. 8 (Special.)- Jack Clemson, son of Mrs. Hugh Varker, was married to Beulah Hendry Friday night in the Episcopal church, the Rev. Thomas Scott officiating.  Dick Clemson, brother of the groom, and Mrs. Norma Pherigo, sister of the bride, were attendants.  Mrs. Clemson has been employed as clerk in the post-office and he has been employed at the Sullivan zinc plant.  The couple are graduates of Kellogg high school and will make their home here.  A reception at the Varker home followed the ceremony.'

So presumably Maude had previously been married to a Mr Clemson.



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Poor Beulah!  I can't believe they turned her away at the border.  Perhaps she was already ill, and that was her last chance to go and see her parents.  And if she had no money with her, how did she get home?  I guess her railway ticket had been bought in advance: I just hope it was a return ticket.



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The following immigration record form 1934 is very interesting as it looks as if Beulah is attempting to travel from the US into Canada but is actually refused entry.

It records that She has no money or effects in her possession and the reason for travel is 'health'.

Also it gives us a number of addresses:

Beuleh's previous Canadian address: 644 Speed Avenue, Victoria, BC
Beuleh's US Home address: 220 North Division Street, Kellogg, Idaho
Possibly Joseph and Ada's address: 2640 Rose Street, Victoria, BC
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Beulah, Hugh and Joseph Varker appear in a transcript of monumental inscriptions at Greenwood Cemetery, Kellogg, Shoshone County.

(The details are copyright of the transcriber, so I am not copying them here.)



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Back on the Varker branch I have located a couple of newspaper clippings.

Firstly Beulah in 1936 (Shoshone County Newspaper):

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Just 44, another tough time for Ada and Joseph no doubt, outliving a second child.

Then Beulah and Hugh's second son Joseph (Spokane Daily Chronicle - Mar 18, 1980)

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It would suggest Josephs wife (name yet unknown) has died though confirms one daughter, and three grandchildren (presumably Sandra's though not specified).

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Hi Jane,

Brilliant, thanks for locating and posting those details. You're right, I am also struggling to locate Ada and the family in 1911 (I didn't check the Irish census aswell this time so not to look silly again!) - I wonder where they are!?

Back on the Eytel line I have located this Obituary for Raymond, son of Lily Selina and Charles:

EYTEL, Raymond Clay
Of Sacramento, CA, passed away Nov. 11, 2004, age 92 years. Raymond is survived by his children Eileen (Ronald) DeNaughel and Glen Eytel; grandchildren Mark, Michelle and Brian; great grandchildren Wade and Marissa; and his caretaker Lillie Lewis.

Friends are invited to attend Masonic funeral services Tuesday 7PM at PRICE FUNERAL CHAPEL (6335 Sunrise Blvd., 725-2109) and are invited to attend church funeral services Wednesday 10AM at THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS (6450 Walerga Rd., North Highlands). Interment Quincy, WA.

In lieu of flowers donations can be made to the Alzheimer’s Foundation or the Diabetes Association.


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Hi Shane

You've been doing great work unearthing all those bits about the Varkers and Eytels, well done!  Here are a few more bits of the jigsaw for you:

Charles Eytel and 'Lillie' Baylis married on 1 April 1911 in Victoria, BC, according to Ancestry's BC marriage index.  This was before the Canadian 1911 census was taken (June), so you might expect them to be on the 1911 census as a married couple.  I've not managed to find them yet.  Nor have I found Lily on passenger lists, but she was presumably the first of the family to emigrate.

Jos. Bayliss (transcribed as J.C. Baylers on Ancestry!), 42, married, born Nov 1867 England, was in Victoria BC in 1911 with [his brother?] James(?) Bayliss, James' wife 'Roda' and Roda's widowed father.  His date of arrival is given as 1911.  This ties in with a passenger list showing a 43 year old Joseph Baylis arriving at Halifax, Nova Scotia,  on 22 March 1911, aboard the 'Grampian'.

Ada L. Bayliss (45), William A. (13), Hubert G. (5) and Beulah (19) followed the next year, arriving at Quebec on the 'Megantic' in June 1912.  If they didn't leave until 1912, they should be on the English 1911 census somewhere . . . but where?

That's all for now . . .

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In these records we see firstly Hugh leavnig Canada for the US in 1920 and then Beulah and the children following in 1921:

Hugh part 1 of 4
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Hugh part 2 of 4
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Hugh part 3 of 4
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Hugh part 4 of 4
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There is some interesting information in here i.e. that Hugh is a Carpenter, travelling from Victoria B.C., it confirms Beulah as his wife, its looks like its says his destination is 'Sister inlaw, Mrs Chas Eyttle (Eytel)' and it also gives his height, complextion, hair and eye colour.

Then Beulah travels in 1921:

Beulah part 1 of 4
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Beulah part 2 of 4
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Beulah part 3 of 4
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Beulah part 4 of 4
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From these records we can see that Hugh has made his way to Kellogg, Idaho, which is where Beulah and the two children are heading.

Then in Kellogg, Idaho they seem to settle.

Here are a couple more snippets of other info on this branch:

Joseph H Varker

Name: Joseph H Varker
Birth Year: 1920
Race: White, Citizen (White)
State of Residence: Idaho
County or City: Kootenai
  
Enlistment Date: 19 Mar 1943
Enlistment State: Washington
Enlistment City: Spokane
Branch: No branch assignment
Branch Code: No branch assignment
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life
  
Education: 4 years of high school
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Height: 32
Weight: 108

Hugh Price Varker

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By this time Beulah has died, need to have a look at who Maude is.

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The 1930 US census gives us a good start with Beulah's next family steps:

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We can see the that they have also obviously moved to the US from Canada and are in Kellogg, Idaho - the return indicates they moved to the US in 1920. They have three children Harold, Joe and Keith. Hugh's occupation looks like 'Lead Miner'?

So, the tree looks abit like this I think:

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I don't have a record yet but have a lead that Harold may have married a Marion Joy Johns.

Could it be that Keith was a casualty of WW2 with his young death in 1942?

Some more supporting records for this branch.


Name: Beula Varker
Titles & Terms (original): 
Titles & Terms (standardized): 
Date of Death: 30 Oct 1936
Place of Death: Kellogg, Shoshone County, Idaho
Gender: Female
Race (on document): white
Race (standardized): White
Age at Death: 44
Estimated Date of Birth: 
Date of Birth: 31 Aug 1892
Place of Birth: England
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Hugh Varker
Spouse's Name: Titles & Terms (original): 
Spouse's Name: Titles & Terms (standardized): 
Father's Name: John Bayliss
Father's Name: Titles & Terms (original): 
Father's Name: Titles & Terms (standardized): 
Father's Place of Birth: England
Mother's Name: 
Mother's Name: Titles & Terms (original): 
Mother's Name: Titles & Terms (standardized): 
Mother's Place of Birth: England
Occupation: Housewife
Street Address: 
Place of Residence: Kellogg, Shoshone Co., Idaho
Cemetery: 
Place of Burial: Kellogg, Idaho
Date of Burial: 01 Nov 1936
Funeral Home: 
Informant: 
Additional Relatives: 
GSU Film Number: 1530933
Volume/Page/Certificate Number: 101545

First Name: Hugh
Middle Name: 
Last Name: Varker
Name Suffix: 
Birth Date: 21 March 1891
Social Security Number: 518-01-7414
Place of Issuance: Idaho
Last Residence: 
Zip Code of Last Residence: 
Death Date: February 1963
Estimated Age at Death: 72

First Name: Harold
Middle Name: W
Last Name: Varker
Name Suffix: 
Birth Date: 14 August 1917
Social Security Number: 518-01-3668
Place of Issuance: Idaho
Last Residence: Spokane, Washington
Zip Code of Last Residence: 99207
Death Date: 17 June 1988
Estimated Age at Death: 71

This website (here) lists the following as being at Greenwood cemetery:

- Varker, Beulah, b. 1892, d. 1936, s/w Hugh P, Sec KP
- Varker, Hugh P, b. 1891, d. 1963, s/w Beulah, Sec KP
- Varker, Joseph H, b. 1920, d. 1980, Sec KP

So a few more peices of the jigsaw there.

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Here's how I believe Lily's branch progressed, so her marriage to Charles Eytel and two children.

So from Oxfordshire, to Canada and onto the US for this family branch.

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I think the family moved to the US between the births of the tw children as Raymond appears to have been born in DC Canada and Norman in Washington.

That's right Jane, I see it, Lily made it all the way to 100, that's great and significantly outlived her husband.

First Name: Lily
Middle Name: S
Last Name: Eytel
Name Suffix: 
Birth Date: 27 March 1891
Social Security Number: 532-66-7507
Place of Issuance: Washington
Last Residence: 
Zip Code of Last Residence: 
Death Date: 28 September 1991
Estimated Age at Death: 100

Here are a couple of other records from this branch for the two male children. 

Name: Charles Clay Eytel
Death Date: 27 Nov 1954
Death Place: Bremerton, Kitsap, Washington
Gender: Male
Race (Displayed on Form): 
Age at Death: 67 years 5 months 26 days
Estimated Birth Year: 1887

First Name: Raymond
Middle Name: C
Last Name: Eytel
Name Suffix: 
Birth Date: 22 July 1912
Social Security Number: 534-01-5289
Place of Issuance: Washington
Last Residence: Sacramento, Sacramento, California
Zip Code of Last Residence: 95842
Death Date: 11 November 2004
Estimated Age at Death: 92

First Name: Norman
Middle Name: R
Last Name: Eytel
Name Suffix: 
Birth Date: 15 April 1915
Social Security Number: 534-01-5285
Place of Issuance: Washington
Last Residence: Kitsap, Washington
Zip Code of Last Residence: 98337
Death Date: 16 January 1997
Estimated Age at Death: 82

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William Albert ('Bill') Bayliss set up a business making neon signs in the 1920s:

http://www.devlinelectricsign.com/family_business.html

According to that site, Bill's daughter (not named) married David Devlin Thorburn. 



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That is a sad story about Hetty.  How terrible for the whole family, and for the poor little boy who accidentally killed her.

I have started looking for clues about her siblings and what became of them.  The Varkers ring a bell: haven't we found something about them before?  Lily's married name (Eytel) is also unusual, so I tried putting that into FamilySearch.  It came up with a 1920 US census record for her (with husband and two children) in Washington State.  You should be able to see the full census returns on Ancestry.  A Lily S. Eytel also appears in the (American) Social Security Death Index, born 27 March 1891 and died 28 September 1991 !!!  So she made it to her 100th birthday, living 10 times longer than her ill-fated little sister Hetty.

Time for some more coffee now before I look for some of the others.

Bye for now

Jane

 



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In the previous tree diagram I noted the death dates of Joseph and Ada Louisa, in 1940 and 1956 respectively, and these dates are supported by the following record details:

Firstly Joseph:

Death Date: 14 Dec 1940
Death Place: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Name: Joseph Bayliss
Gender: Male
Age: 73y 1m 23d
Birth Date: 21 Oct 1867
Birthplace: Lidstone, England
Marital Status: Married
Spouse: Ada Louise Bayliss
Father: William Bayliss
Mother: Charlotte Booth
Indian Agency: 
Indian Band/Tribe: 
Film Number: 1953629
Digital Folder Number: 4437620
Image Number: 3047
British Columbia Archives Film Number: B13169
Registration Number: 6932

Then Ada:

Death Date: 01 Sep 1956
Death Place: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Name: Ada Bayliss
Gender: Female
Age: 88y
Birth Date: 08 Oct 1867
Birthplace: Stonefield, England
Marital Status: Widow
Spouse: Joseph Bayliss
Father: Albert Oliver
Mother: 
Indian Agency: 
Indian Band/Tribe: 
Film Number: 2033105
Digital Folder Number: 4437863
Image Number: 1692
British Columbia Archives Film Number: B13229
Registration Number: 56-09-009966

Again, no more details here yet on any specific locations they were living or where they may lay in rest.

One nice thing I did find however was a picture of Joseph's parents on a public tree, William Baylis and Charlotte Boots, supposedly taken in 1875.

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Here's the next layer in the Bayliss story.

All 4 surviving children emigrated with their parants to Victoria, BC, Canada in around 1912 and per the below I've now located marriages for 3 of the 4.

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1. Here are details for Lily's marriage:

Marriage Date: 01 Apr 1911
Marriage Place: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Groom's Name: Charles Clay Eytel
Groom's Age: 24
Groom's Birth Date: 1887
Groom's Birthplace: Geeley, Colorado
Groom's Marital Status: Bachelor
Groom's Residence: 
Groom's Father's Name: Julius Wm Eytel
Groom's Mother's Name: Linsy F Eytel
Bride's Name: Lillie Baylis
Bride's Age: 20
Bride's Birth Date: 1891
Bride's Birthplace: Stonesfield, England
Bride's Marital Status: Spinster
Bride's Residence: 
Bride's Father's Name: Joseph Baylis
Bride's Mother's Name: Ada Baylis
Film Number: 1983527
Digital Folder Number: 4400854
Image Number: 175
BC Archives Film Number: B11370
Registration Number: 175
Banns or License: License

2. Here are details for Beulah's marriage:

Marriage Date: 04 Nov 1916
Marriage Place: , British Columbia, Canada
Groom's Name: Hugh Price Varker
Groom's Age: 25
Groom's Birth Date: 1891
Groom's Birthplace: St Erth Cornwall, England
Groom's Marital Status: Bachelor
Groom's Residence: 
Groom's Father's Name: William Varker
Groom's Mother's Name: Elizabeth Biddick
Bride's Name: Beulah Beatrice Bayliss
Bride's Age: 24
Bride's Birth Date: 1892
Bride's Birthplace: Stonesfield, England
Bride's Marital Status: Spinster
Bride's Residence: 
Bride's Father's Name: Joseph Bayliss
Bride's Mother's Name: Ada Louise Oliver
Film Number: 1983528
Digital Folder Number: 4400855
Image Number: 2413
BC Archives Film Number: B11371
Registration Number: 2436
Banns or License: License

3. Here are details for William's marriage:

Marriage Date: 14 Apr 1922
Marriage Place: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Groom's Name: William Albert Bayless
Groom's Age: 23
Groom's Birth Date: 1899
Groom's Birthplace: Stonefield, England
Groom's Marital Status: Bachelor
Groom's Residence: 
Groom's Father's Name: Joseph Bayless
Groom's Mother's Name: Ada Louise Oliver
Bride's Name: Mary Elizabeth Birch
Bride's Age: 20
Bride's Birth Date: 1902
Bride's Birthplace: Liverpool, England
Bride's Marital Status: Spinster
Bride's Residence: 
Bride's Father's Name: Richard Thomas Birch
Bride's Mother's Name: Elizabeth Anne Wittingtoy
Film Number: 2074225
Digital Folder Number: 4400873
Image Number: 146
BC Archives Film Number: B13743
Registration Number: 146
Banns or License: License

I have a lead that Hubert married a Kathleen Tinker, but as yet I can't commit to that as I've not found a record.

Sadly there are no residence detail included for the Bayliss's so as yet we can't be more specific about where in Victoria they lived.

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What a tragic accident, and one I'm sure my grandparents (May and Tom) would have remembered all their lives.

Interestingly, one of my friends was Stephanie Scroggs. Her father was Ivor, who would have been born around the same time as my Dad, 1920 or thereabouts, but Arthur Scroggs could well have been her grandfather's brother or cousin. (I don't remember her grandfather's name but I don't think it was Arthur.) Also the other playmate, Edith Dore, was likely related to Billy Dore and I do remember him and his wife Gertie.

It will be interesting to find out where the family members settled once they came to Canada.

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Hi All,

The 'Fantastic Family' photo and article has been a wonderful find though you might recall that I noted there were one of two very poignant aspects to it.

One of those is regarding Hetty May Bayliss who at the time of the photo was just one or two years of age.

Here is Hetty with her father Joseph Bayliss and her mother Ada Louisa Bayliss (nee Oliver).

hetty1.jpg 

In 1912/1913 we know that the family emigrated to Canada, though Hetty is not listed as emigrating.

hetty3.jpg

On closer inspection into the records of the time we can find a death registration for Hetty in 1904.

The Witney Gazette newspaper for the 1st October tells the story of the fatal accident.

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A very sad story for the bright young girl.

The family members took many directions once on Canada, more to come of that later.

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Shane



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