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Hi Chris

          good to hear from you Re: the bible, the original owner of this one was my grandad (who I am named after) Tom Oliver married my grandma

          who was a Haswell from Guisbrough and when she passed on it came to my Dad George Oliver then of course it was passed on to me. If you are interested I have researched the Haswell connection and am in the process of doing the connection between the Olivers and my mothers side of the family the Cusworths who were from the south Yorks area of Jump nr Barnsley where I was born and raised to my knowledge all the men on the Oliver side were coal/stone miners it seems LOL and all the men on the Haswell side were carpenters . anyhow I have all kinds of stories about this but it would take hours of typing to relate them LOL

        I am glad my post brought back fond memories Chris and it was nice to hear from someone who enjoys them

                                                          Tom (Floyd)

 

 



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I know the connection now, Stephen Oliver had two wives, Ellen Hanks and second wife Margaret Warrior. 

 

The bible you have Tom shows the children between Stephen and Margaret his second wife.  The Hartlepool Yorkshire Olivers come from the marriage of Stephen and his first wife Ellen.  Shane has done a family tree on Stephen Oliver and Ellen and also Margaret Warrior showing the children Tom, Owen and Fred.  I am sure Shane will check this out but I knew I had seen the Warrior surname before. 

 

The family tree looks long but I think we are connected by Stephen.

 

Christine.



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Hi Tom,

Just browsing through your pictures, the bible is the exact same as I remember seeing as a child, the cover, the side locks, even the hand writing style is familiar as the Hartlepool/Brotton Olivers bible.   Uncle George Oliver had the bible as the eldest and it started with Mark and the family started from Brotton the surname Warrior is familiar to me but again seeing your bible was as though I was seeing our missing bible. 

It is lovely to see that you are keeping it safe.

 

Christine (daughter of Frederick Oliver)



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Hi Phil

        glad you appreciate the bible, the "chest" I made , I do all kinds of chests,"ditty boxes" and jewelry boxes as well as barnwood picture frames etc, I think I picked that up from my grandad Haswell (Tom Olivers wifes Dad) grandma Haswell's Dad Charles was a cabinet maker from up Guisborough way, grandad Tom Oliver was born in Brotton, Its good to hear that somebody is interested in keeping the "Old " stories alive, I am in the process of try to get help in writing a book about my life  so that at leased  it will be there after I am gone, I am now serching for another family bible from the Haswell family which when my Aunt Eva Oliver (my dads sister) had in her posession , it belonged to Grandma Haswell and contains all the info on that side of the family, it is legally mine because I am a direct decendant  of Grandad Charles but Aunt Eve's husband Ronnie Gregg claimed it and I hav'nt been able to locate him and his brood and he may be dead by now, Shane is trying to locate them for me , anyhow my good wife has just told me to come and have coffee so all the best to you and yours and we will talk later

                                                                       Tom (floyd)

             



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Hi Tom. It has been a wonderful treat to see your posted pictures of your family bible dating back so many years and especially to see your intention to preserve it for posterity.What a wonderful wooden case you keep it in. Here in the U K it is common to see such family relics dumped by uncaring relatives or sent to auction where they seldom raise any interest. Here we are trying to track down a similar bible that may have been started by my grandfather George William Oliver and his wife Mary Ann [King],or even a generation earlier.My mother,also Mary Ann [Mollie],her youngest sister ,Olga was something of a family archivist and it was in her possession.We are hoping to track down either of her 2 sons to see if they inherited all this archive and the family bible..It only takes one uninterested family member and so much " priceless treasure " is lost for ever.We are even hoping the framed photo shown on the 20 anniversary of his passing away family gathering picture, will turn up someday.......thanks again for your lovely pics..  Phil Hume posting as ancient rowman



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Hi Shane

            thanks for the comeback on the bible, I am not sure but I think this is a connection to the Hartlpool Olivers ??? just checking the  (move to Yorkshire.Lancashire and on to Canada ) post and it seems like it could be, if anyone wants to contact me just go ahead, by the way Shane it was good to hear from you, I am also checking with an Oliver family who came through the Mormon trail to Cardston Alberta in the early 1800's I have a photo of the name Oliver carved into Independence Rock thats what started me looking into it

                                                                  Floyd (Tom)



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Hi Floyd, wow, this is lovely, really nice to see it, thanks very much for taking the pictures and sharing - I owe you a tree diagram too, let me work on updating that over the next couple of days and I have a new version for you

Thanks for now,

Shane



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Just thought You all would like to see where the Oliver name joined forces with the Haswell name, my great grandad was Stephen Oliver and the bible was started by him when he married my great grandma Oliver Bible 001.JPGOliver Bible 002.JPGOliver Bible 003.JPGOliver Bible 004.JPGOliver Bible 005.JPG



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