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So sorry for your loss Floyd.

https://www.mbfunerals.com/obituary/Heather-Oliver-1

1946 ~ 2017

Mrs. Heather Oliver of Turin, beloved wife of Mr. Floyd Oliver, passed away at the Chinook Regional Hospital with Floyd by her side on Sunday, November 12, 2017 at the age of 71 years.

Cremation entrusted to the Coaldale Funeral Home.

 



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Hi Floyd. What a true statement about your dad. As I wasn't born until 1946 I only have photos to compare my dad in 1939 to how he looked in 1945.he was about 35 when called up right at the start in 1939.. He was a Rolls Royce trained mechanic/driver and they must have commandeered the list of such people and called them up.Oddly the army being what  it was ,he spent the first year and a half behind an anti aircraft battery guarding the Chain Home radar mast at Staxton Bank near Scarborough.Certainly an easier posting than Scapa.He was then shipped round Africa to Suez and spent a couple of years in the western desert and somehow contracted Malaria in the Italian campaign.He was plagued with bouts  of malaria right up to being about 60 and he was one of the men who didn't talk much about the war afterwards and he didn't even claim his campaign medals. It was sad to see the gradual decline of such a strong man.He passed away at 85 and my mum mollie {mary ann oliver}died about 5 yrs later. Through this website I have discovered much I did not know about her and the Olivers of her generation and cousins I did not know about before.I do hope that you have a similarly happy experience.....best wishes      ... phil hume



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Hi Phil

        I could have been wrong about the name of the ship, I do know the escape rout of the U boat though, It jumped the sand bar at hi tide between "the Ould Man of Hoy" and the Island, My Dad used to say that the guy who skippered the U boat must have studied the tides etc and got into Scappa underneath one of the ship and sneaking through the boom then just laid low until the next high tide to make his attack and escape while the uproar was on, I paid a visit to the Island a long time ago before I came to Canada just to see what the place looked like LOL  (not impressed )I am not sure exactly how long he was there I know they demobbed him in I think 44 and the 1st Batt took an ass kicking at Dunkirk and he never spoke too much about that part of his service apart from that I was only about 10 in 41 I do know that the Dad that went away was not the Dad that came home in 44

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Hello Floyd. Very interested in you dad being at what was known as Scapa Flow a large natural harbour in the Orkneys. It was used as the main anchorage for the navys  main battle fleet during world war one ,and was where the german high seas fleet was scuttled by its own crews after being held there at wars end.As world war 2 loomed Churchill ordered more blockships to be sunk between some of the islands to prevent access by enemy submarine.However one U boat early in the war ,U47 was sent there to hopefully catch many British ships there.He managed to get in at high tide and sink HMS Royal Oak , a large but old battleship.The german captain Gunther Prien thought he had sunk another battleship but the explosions he heard were his torpedos exploding on the shore.He safely got out of Scapa and returned to Germany a hero.Im not sure about the casualties but it could have been maybe 800 including a large number of naval boy  recruits. some of the gaps between islands were filled in and I don't think the germans ever tried to repeat the  attack. It would have been a most depressing place for your dad to serve. cold , stormy and an almost continuous wind over the islands which were all very low ,no tree cover and absolutely nothing to do when off duty.Do you know how long he was there and where he went afterwards. Some of the South Lancs fought a rearguard action at Dunkirk and some including a late neighbour of mine went into Japanese captivity after the fall of Singapore in 1942. Very happy to meet you through this forum.......Phil Hume

 



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Hi Shane
During WW2 a lot of Merchant ships were fitted with guns on the after deck so that they could at least defend themselves from German subs etc
and members of The South Lanc's regiment were trained to handle this job and were given the shoulder patch to designate the position, My Dad was stationed in the Orkney Islands at the time to defend against a possible invasion from Norway which for some reason or other was never made public, the King George V along with I think 2 more battleships was sunk by subs in Stromness Harbour, the subs escaped during the melee afterwards.
Thanks for the work you did on the "tree" I will sort out some more pics to fill in if this is OK by you, I really appreciate the work you put in, thank you very much for this fantastic site, if ever I can do anything in return feel free to ask


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It's with Floyds kind permission that I'm pleased to share here a couple of really lovely photographs from Floyds line of the Oliver Family.

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The first photograph is of Floyds father, George Oliver who was born in 1903, son of Tom Oliver (b.1874),  grandson of Stephen Oliver (b.1831)

The second are George's children/Floyd and his sisters, Muriel at the top born in 1925, Doreen next down born 1923 and then Floyd himself in the car born 1931.

Then here is a little tree diagram expanding on Floyds branch - interesting that the right side, George down, all emigrated to Canada whilst the left side have been and still are very much in the Bradford, England area - so as you mentioned above Phil, just a stones throw away from quite close cousins in Wharfdale.

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Very nice to see these Floyd, thank you for sharing - let me know if I have anything wrong!

Quick question if I may please Floyd, I can't quite make out the writing on your Dad shoulder badge, does is say South Lancashire? I'm not an expert on badges and insignia, but the badge below the words looks like a Leading Seaman Rank Badge - would be interested should you know more on the military details of Dad?

Ok, that almost a night for me!

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Shane

 



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Hi Floyd,

Below are some details on the crime - its strangely fortunate that he did the crime otherwise we wouldn't have the picture, its taken in 1870 and if I recall correctly it still the oldest Oliver photograph that we have located .

I will be happy to add the extra pictures to the tree diagram, thank you - I just wanted to have your permission to use them rather than just going ahead smile - watch this space for an updated tree diagram!

Shane

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Hi Shane,
I noticed that the pic of Steven is a "Prison foto" LOL any idea what he was in for (Other than poaching) also Do you add the pics to the family tree I can send you pics of George, Mary ann, Doreen, Muriel, and My grandad and Grandma Cusworth !!


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biggrin Hi Shane !!! Yes, I remember it well LOL the "Empress" was a great trip, paid for by a fantastic run of luck in an after hours poker game. I worked on the building of the Trans Canada from Banff Park gates to the BC border and figured I needed a holidayLOL,



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Hello Floyd. I see from  the last posting by Shane that the address you gave as where you were stopping in Bradford was  only about a dozen miles from relatives you probably did not know existed at Otley and Burley in Wharfedale..kindest regards     phil hume.   posting as ancient rowman



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Hi Floyd,

I wonder if you remember well your passage aboard the 'Empress of France', from Montreal to Liverpool arriving 8th December 1958?

Thanks!
Shane


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The little tree diagram as promised!

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Thanks,
Shane



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I would like to thank all for your gracious welcome and to say that it is very nice to know that I resemble such a good looking bunch of relatives LOL


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Hi Floyd,

Lovely to see you so warmly welcomed here, and I extend that welcome from me also - we're really covering the map of Canada now with Olivers and Oliver descendants across the country;  British Columbia, Ontario, Saskatchewan and now Alberta, wonderful!

Here is the tree diagram Phil refer's to. We can see Tom your Grandfather b.1874 here, son of Stephen and Margaret, generationally you would at the same level as the 8 brothers and sisters with photographs - so, second cousins I think that is (will check that!)

I will post more of a tree diagram and the connection later this evening, but I have to echo, what a remarkable family likeness!

Thanks for now,
Shane

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****ermouth Cumbria.



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THATS ****ERMOUTH CUMBRIA BY THE WAY



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HELLO THERE. ANOTHER WELCOME FROM AN ENGLISH {OLIVER}.  MY MOTHER WAS MARY ANN[ MOLLIE ] SECOND CHILD OF 8 AND ELDEST DAUGHTER OF GEORGE AND MARY ANN OF BOWER STREET .WEST HARTLEPOOL. BORN IN 1905.I AGREE WITH MY COUSINS COMMENT ABOUT YOUR  OLIVER EYES. HAVE YOU SEEN THE FAMILY PHOTO TAKEN IN 1951 AT HARTLEPOOL. ITS POSTED TWICE ON THIS SITE. AND HEAD PHOTOS FROM IT TAKEN TO  BE USED ON ONE OF SHANES LOVINGLY CONSTRUCTED FAMILY TREEES. HE WILL BE DOING CARTWHEELS OF DELIGHT AT 2 CANADIAN CONTACTS WITHIN A WEEK.... ..BEST WISHES AND WELCOME TO YOU AND ALL YOUR KIN.     FROM PHIL HUME ****ERMOUTH CUMBRIA..



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Hello, you certainly look like a Hartlepool Oliver your resemblance to my Uncle George is quite remarkable, his brother Charles emigrated to Canada in the 1050's. 



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smile Steven Oliver was my Great Grandad  and I am a descendant from the Warrior side of the tree, My Grandad was Tom Oliver and My Dad was George I have bee researching the Haswell side connection, I live in Turin Alberta Canada, YES !!! its in Canada LOL even folks living 20 Miles away dont even know where it is Its a pleasure to meet Yall

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