Yes that is who I thought was Kathy Styles, from the video clip.
When I was living in Stonesfield I hadn't realised that George and Cyril were brothers. I'm learning so much from this website.
I hadn't noticed the picture of Cyril, Edna and Terry before. Thanks for bringing this thread to my attention. Terry married Judy Snell from Woodstock. I don't know if they had children or not. I think Judy still lives in Stonesfield. Terry passed away a few years ago.
We can also add in a photo and some details about Philip, second son of Phillip and Minnie.
In a previous thread Jane had already discovered that Philip and his brother John emigrated to Canada: they were in Nanaimo, British Columbia on the Canadian 1911 census, John aged 21 and Philip aged 20
Philip never married and here is his Canadian death registration.
Death Date: 20 Apr 1965 Death Place: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Name: Philip Oliver Gender: Male Age: 74y Birth Date: 20 Aug 1890 Birthplace: Woodstock, Oxford England Marital Status: Single Spouse: Father: Philip Oliver Mother: Minnie Griffin Indian Agency: Indian Band/Tribe: Film Number: 2033724 Digital Folder Number: 4479262 Image Number: 2393 British Columbia Archives Film Number: B13271 Registration Number: 65 09 005337
An item in another thread sparked some memories in another branch of the family which allows us to add some more details to that family line:
Shane:
If you go up to the Fanny Hunt (nee Oliver) information (almost at the beginning of this thread), one of the sons of Phillip and Minnie is George Oliver 1895. There was a George Oliver who lived down Combe Road who looked a lot like Cyril Oliver. Unfortunately I can't remember George's wife's name (although I can picture her!). They had two children, Roy and Kathy. Roy married Peggy and they had one daughter, Susan. Kathy married Frank Styles and they had two daughters, Shirley and Jennifer (both born in the 1950's). I think Kathy and Jennifer were at the Oliver Family History Day last year, because I think I recognized them on the video clip I watched.
If this is the right George Oliver you may be able to complete another branch of this Oliver line.
Barb
I'm sure the George Oliver you recall is the right George Barb, George and Cyril were both son's a Philip and Minnie.
Here's how it fits together and how some of the other names you recall, Roy, Kathy, Shirley and Jennifer fit in:
You're also right that you spotted Kathy at the Oliver Family History Day, here she is I think:
And yes I think both of her daughters were at the day too.
Hello Jane, Linda and the Grumpy ........ Nuff said.
Managed to click on every day and read the latest. Not able to type over the past 5 days because I `popped` a bone in the back of my hand sawing a branch off the neighbours tree whilst he was away on holiday.
I do appreciate all the hard work and time Jane.
I am making a list of `cannot find a home` Olivers. Terry Oliver was one name on that list Shane. So one can be deleted from the list. But every time you come up with a family tree - I have to retype all my notes. Then I never get time to do anything constructive.
By the way in the 1960`s I worked for T.H. Kingerlee and Sons, Builders, of Oxford. One of the Directors at that time was a Thomas Kingerlee and his address was Boars Hill, Oxford. I should imagine there would be a connection with the Building Family and the demise of Minnie Oliver`s husband.
Re: Thanks, Shane, it was great to see those pictures, and to see from the tree where these Olivers fit in. Have you tracked down any of the Canadian branch of the family?
No, not tracked this branch down yet, though I know the son of John and Flo was still in Canada in the 1980's and he followed in his fathers footsteps and came across to meet the son of the person his father came across to meet in 1958.
Its interesting to see that as part of the big migration of UK folks to Canada in the early 1900's we now know there were several Oliver family branches from the Stonesfield and Coombe area all going about the same time - I too wonder if they all knew about each other.
These are not my branch of Olivers but it is interesting to learn that they were living on Vancouver Island as my Grandparents (Elizabeth (nee Oliver) and Fred Rogers) went to live on Vancouver Island in 1913. My Grandmothers sister, Elsie, and her brother Jack also went. My Grampy went out first and Gran followed a few months later with my Uncle who was only 3 years old. They travelled across Canada on the Canadian Pacific Railway. I am now wondering if they knew these other Olivers and this is the reason why they chose to go to Vancouver Island. They came back home in 1915 but they never forgot their time in Canada and told stories of bears, Indians, giant trees and snow. We also have lots of photo's.
It's great to hear about these stories you are finding in the Gazette. Please don't get despondent.
I especially liked the one about the pigeon post football results.
Thanks, Shane, it was great to see those pictures, and to see from the tree where these Olivers fit in. Have you tracked down any of the Canadian branch of the family?
On to the newspaper cutting, we have discussed this family branch before re: Terry Oliver, and indeed some neices, nephews and grandchildren of the people mentioned in the article were at the Oliver Family Day.
Here is the tree shows the brothers, John, Philip and Cyril, sons of Philip and Minnie.
Here are the Stonesfield hosts, Cyril and his wife Edna, with a young Terry Oliver
Here are the Canadian visitors, John and his wife Flo
Nice to put faces to names hey - thanks again to the owner of these photos who had previously given me permission to use them on this site.
Mr. and Mrs. Cyril Oliver of Combe Road, Stonesfield, have been entertaining Mr. and Mrs. John Oliver of Victoria, Vancouver Island, British Columbia during the past week. John Oliver, son of the late Mr. and Mrs. Phillip Oliver of Pond Hill, left Stonesfield in 1909 to try his luck in Canada, as did many other Stonesfield people. He met his wife, Florence, in Canada and spent forty years dairy farming. They have a family of one son and three daughters and when Mr. Oliver retired 5 years ago he was succeeded by his son-in-law.
They have travelled extensively during their month's holiday and have been interested in comparing prices here with Canada. They have come to the conclusions that there is little difference between the two countries but that wages and living standards are much higher in Canada. Wages for tradesmen of £35 per week are not uncommon.
Mr. Oliver was only 20 when he left this country, and he will celebrate his 70th birthday on the return journey, which begins on 3rd. October from Southampton. Before setting sail there will be a farewell family party aboard the S.S. Homeric.
They have enjoyed seeing their family in Stonesfield, Kidlington and Southsea, but look forward to being re-united with their children again. Another brother, Mr. Philip Oliver, also lives in Canada.
(from the Witney Gazette, 3 October 1958)
Jane
P.S. I hope you find this interesting. If so, please say so, because it is rather demoralising typing up all this stuff and then getting no response at all.
P.P.S. when I originally posted this I had the last word of the article as 'Combe'. Don't know why I did that: it should be Canada! Now corrected.
-- Edited by jane on Friday 28th of May 2010 06:45:09 PM
